Pettovello celebrated the end of the poverty managers: 'Bullrich brought order to the streets and I defunded them'

Pettovello celebrated the end of the poverty managers: 'Bullrich brought order to the streets and I defunded them'
Sandra in dialogue with Eduardo Feinmann
porEditorial Team
Argentina

The Minister of Human Capital targeted corruption in social welfare programs and defended the labor reform

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The Minister of Human Capital, Sandra Pettovello, provided an assessment of the first two years of the National Government's administration. She strongly targeted a corruption structure that had been entrenched in the State for years, linked to the management of social welfare programs and picket movements.

In a conversation with Radio Mitre, the official stated that her Ministry managed to dismantle that network through a strategy coordinated with the Ministry of Security.

"It was an entire large network of different State agencies intertwined to steal", Pettovello stated. She then explained how a system functioned that relied on the proliferation of ministries, secretariats, undersecretariats, and social programs without effective controls. "This profusion of ministries, secretariats, undersecretariats, and welfare programs muddies the waters so that there is no transparency", she added.

Coordination with Security and the end of the pickets

La Ministra de Capital Humano destacó el trabajo de Patricia Bullrich en Seguridad
La Ministra de Capital Humano destacó el trabajo de Patricia Bullrich en Seguridad

One of the central themes of the interview was the control of public space. Pettovello attributed the end of the pickets to coordinated work: "The work we did on the issue of the pickets was carried out together with Minister Bullrich. She restored order in the streets and I cut off their funding."

According to the head of Human Capital, the strategy combined the actions of the security forces with the cutoff of funding. She maintained that the organizations used social welfare programs as a tool of political pressure.

"They were on both sides of the counter"

Pettovello also described the mechanisms used by the so-called "managers of poverty" to appropriate public resources. "What they did was to be on both sides of the counter", she explained.

In that regard, she mentioned as an example social leaders such as Emilio Pérsico and Eduardo Belliboni, who are currently under complaint. She detailed the use of cooperatives linked to INAES to issue fake invoices and purchase supplies with surcharges.

"You had one of them who, from the outside, made noise to demand more subsidies. The one on the inside seemed to get angry, they acted, and they granted many more subsidies," she described. She also maintained that control over the beneficiaries was practically nonexistent: "There were one million four hundred thousand people in an Excel file".

Digitalization, control, and direct delivery of funds

To reverse this situation, the minister highlighted the digitalization and technologization of the resource allocation systems, especially in agencies such as ANSES. "That's why it is important to have data and to technologize all areas, to digitalize, as we are doing in ANSES", she indicated.

Pettovello contó que su sueño es que desmantelar para siempre los entramados de corrupción
Pettovello contó que su sueño es que desmantelar para siempre los entramados de corrupción

Pettovello emphasized that the objective of her administration is to leave a structure that prevents the return of irregular practices. "My objective and my main concern is that when I leave here, they will not be able to come back and do what they used to do", she stated.

Regarding the budget, she stated that the distribution scheme changed radically during this administration. "Fifty percent of the budget was given to the managers of poverty, and today ninety-five percent of the budget goes directly into people's pockets. It is absolutely transparent".

Defense of labor reform

In another part of the interview with Feinmann, Pettovello defended the labor reform that the Government plans to address in February. "It is a banner that I have carried from the beginning", she stated.

She also questioned the results of previous policies: "Where did the policies of Kirchnerism or of previous governments lead us?" She then answered her own question: "To informality for half of the economically active population".

Sandra en diálogo con Eduardo Feinmann
Sandra en diálogo con Eduardo Feinmann

In the face of accusations of "labor slavery," she was blunt: "People need to work. What rights are we protecting if there is no work?" She then added: "To protect workers' rights, we have to protect jobs; we must not pay attention to narratives".

Finally, the minister also replied to the legal complaints filed against her. "I have fifteen criminal cases for being transparent and for trying to be a public official who views public service as a vocation of service", she said.


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